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#1 RogueTrooper

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 12:34 PM

I am looking for a digital camcorder. Pref on that will record on DVD's. Any advice?
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Posted 08 December 2006 - 02:04 PM

The reports I've heard from some Sony DVD camcorder users who have the DVD camcorders is that they are not very good. The discs need to be finalized in the camera before it can be played in any DVD player or ejected (a several minute process) and the cameras are much more sensative to physical shocks which can corrupt the recording leading to the whole disc being corrupt. I also believe you need to purchase special "mini" DVD media for the camera-standard sized DVDs will not work in the Sony cameras I've seen.

Personally, I would stay with DV based camcorders and burn a DVD either from your computer or from a DVD video recorder. The DV tape also has much more bandwidth than DVDs will ever have so your picture details will look better when transfered to DVD or blueray or HD-DVD when ever they become affordable.
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Posted 08 December 2006 - 07:06 PM

The reports I've heard from some Sony DVD camcorder users who have the DVD camcorders is that they are not very good. The discs need to be finalized in the camera before it can be played in any DVD player or ejected (a several minute process) and the cameras are much more sensative to physical shocks which can corrupt the recording leading to the whole disc being corrupt. I also believe you need to purchase special "mini" DVD media for the camera-standard sized DVDs will not work in the Sony cameras I've seen.

Personally, I would stay with DV based camcorders and burn a DVD either from your computer or from a DVD video recorder. The DV tape also has much more bandwidth than DVDs will ever have so your picture details will look better when transfered to DVD or blueray or HD-DVD when ever they become affordable.

Thanks Mike, any suggestions on models?
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Posted 08 December 2006 - 07:51 PM

The last batch of cameras we were able to buy at work were three chip CCD models so they were in the $1500+ range when we bought them 4 years ago. We have Sony PD-100, PD-150 and TRV900 camcorders at work . The students work the heck out of them and they seem to be pretty bullet proof. Canon XL1 and XL2 cameras are also nice, but they are also in the pro-sumer price range $1k+

I look for cameras with higher optical zooms-typically 8x - 12x since the 200x digital zoom always sucks.

The pictures from 1 chip CCD cameras look pretty good to my eyes (I probably don't know what to look for :lol: ) and are pretty affordable. If possible try to play with one in a store to see how easy the menus are navigated. Some setups are easier to navigate and use than others.

I prefer mid sized cameras. I feel there is less shaking with larger cameras. "Anti shake" was surprisingly good on the one Canon camera I serviced. I don't remember the model number.

I don't believe "still picture" capability should be included on video cameras since the resolution on most video cameras is a small fraction of the resolution of still cameras. IIRC most video cameras have sub-mega pixel CCDs. Heck, my broadcast cameras have 750k pixel CCDs.
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Posted 09 December 2006 - 07:59 AM

I'd second everything Mike said -

At my work we re-use miniDV tapes in consumer camcorders and record onto DVD recorders. It works pretty well. I too am leary about having a disc inside a handheld, and the finalization process can take 5 minutes or so.

My one big recommendation would be to have an external mic input on your camera.
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Posted 09 December 2006 - 01:44 PM

Thanks Chaps! Off to the store......
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Posted 10 December 2006 - 06:43 AM

Thanks Chaps! Off to the store......



Who is wearing chaps? :blink:
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Posted 10 December 2006 - 06:50 AM

Thanks Chaps! Off to the store......



Who is wearing chaps? :blink:

<_< damn foreigner.



:lol:
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Posted 10 December 2006 - 07:06 AM

Thanks Chaps! Off to the store......



Who is wearing chaps? :blink:

<_< damn foreigner.



Oops, my mistake, you are off to the store to buy some chaps.


Wait, does that mean you aren't wearing any pants right now? :eek:
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Posted 10 December 2006 - 01:34 PM

Oops, my mistake, you are off to the store to buy some chaps.


Wait, does that mean you aren't wearing any pants right now? :eek:



Yes, RT likes the bottomless chaps so I have heard....
RT I have a JVC MiniDV that was cheap (like 299.00 or so) and with the firewire connection worked wonders!

but if you have already been to the store...what did you get?

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Posted 11 December 2006 - 07:10 PM

Nothing yet......still mulling it over.

I was going to give you a call Unit cos I rememberd that you got one not too long ago.
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Posted 11 December 2006 - 07:20 PM

Nothing yet......still mulling it over.

I was going to give you a call Unit cos I remembered that you got one not too long ago.



Gimme a call tomorrow after about 4pm..I have finals until then.

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Posted 12 December 2006 - 08:12 PM

Nothing yet......still mulling it over.

I was going to give you a call Unit cos I remembered that you got one not too long ago.



Gimme a call tomorrow after about 4pm..I have finals until then.

Today? :lol:
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